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[quig1984]

well the rest of us would like to see that test........haha I'm curious

[steve1616]

I think Dewaltdude is going to do this test eventually.  I think the tools were probably exactly the same.  I am pretty sure the time descrepancy was my fault running the stopwatch.  My local tools store was kind enough to let me test this, but I think they are getting a little annoyed with me.  They just want a sell at this point, and I will buy, but I just need a dead tool and 2 batteries to get the promotional deal. 

[kjones]

The tools are actually pretty different, so the results are actually a bit surprising to me. The 20v runs at a higher rpm, so I am not too surprised that they where the same with large lag bolts, but the 3 inch deck screws do surprise me, as I would assume the 20v would be a good deal faster. I have tried this with smaller screws (2 inch or smaller, as it was just screwing into 2x12's), and the 20v was definitely faster. It will be interesting to see someone do a video of this test.

[quig1984]

yea it would take like a whole day but I thought about doing a test of the 825 with lithium and nicad, the 20v with 3.0 and 1.5. Than throwing my 12v in there just for comparison. Heck I wish I and the dcf895 to put in there to....

[steve1616]

I think the newer model was a little faster on the 3" deck screws, but they both sunk them so fast that I don't think you would notice much difference on the job.  I didn't time the 3 inch deck screws because I felt like I was already pushing my luck with the tool store guys.  I was annoyed at one thing.  One guy was telling me that they were an industrial store, and that the tools they sell have better parts in them than cheaper versions at places like home depot.  I think this is a lie.  I would think that if the kit has the same part number than it would be the same whether I bought it from them or home depot or dewalt outlets, and etc.  Does anyone know the real answer to this.  I think the store was lying to justify their higher pricing.

[kjones]

1million percent false! That rumor is definitely outthere, but the absolute truth is that with DeWALT tools, if it has the same model number, it is made the same regardless of what distributor you find it. Imagine the logistics involved if a company where to try and make a crappy model and a quality model, with no distinguishing features between them. They would never be able to track shipments, warranties, etc. I can't speak to other products sold at big box stores, but DeWALT does not do this. If the guys at the store try to tell you that again, feel free to correct them, and if they argue the point, let me know and I will call them myself!  

[quig1984]

haha..seriously. I wish I had been with you... I mean seriously in the us where  dewalt depends on Lowes and depot. I'm in both stores all the time I  walk the tool aisle no matter what because I love a sale. When you buy when you don't havee to have to You save Money. Could you imagine trying to change a part on a tool you paid hundreds of dollars for to they gave you a cheaper version of he real thing 

[steve1616]

Thank you for the piece of mind.  I was pretty sure the salesman was lying, but I am glad that you removed all doubt.  I am going back there this week so I will let you know if he keeps pushing the issue.  The local place is offfering a good deal if I can find a tool to trade in, but I found a Dewalt outlet center online that is selling the same kits so much cheaper that I think the local place needs to come down in price a little.  Home depot is selling the same kit for over $120 cheaper.  I don't like the bags all that much for the new Dewalt kits, but that doesn't affect me anymore since I bought the Dewalt tuff system which is awesome. 

I even found a place online selling the Dewalt 3 amp hour battery for $59.     

[cyclone700]

I just picked up the DCK280 drill and imact combo for about $225 at Lowes.  Lowes matched Home Depot's online price and added an extra 10% off.  Might be another otion for you.