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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2009, 06:56:42 PM »

I was only refering to the runtime, not power. That said the blue version on the Makita impact is identical. The only difference is the blue clamshells come for the their "high end" line which only take the 3.0ah batteries. Thats easy enough to fix though. The only thing keeping the 1.5ah batteries from fitting the blue tools is a small square nub on the tool base which is easily removed. I took it off my impact driver and use the compact batteries on it regularly. With the compact battery the tool is nearly a pound lighter and slightly smaller. 
However using the 3.0ah batteries in other tools like the drill could make a difference since it runs two parallel wired sets of 1.5 ah cells. Under heavy loads the compact battery will cook as you had happen. THe 3.0ah should allow it to  run harder since it will pull half the current from each cell bank.
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2009, 06:48:34 PM »

I got my Makita BTD141 today. To a huge surprise the 1.5ah battery fit. I'm assuming that the BTD140 does not fit the 1.5ah battery with out some modification?
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2009, 12:17:07 PM »

No the BTD140 will not fit the 1.5 ah battery. At least not the very early ones which is what I have. They came out long before the 1.5ah batteries were available so that might have something to do with it but it's easy enough to fix. Just clip off a small tab in the base that blocks the battery from sliding in. When the BDT141 came out I think makita rebranded the 140 as the 142 and changed it to the white shell because last I checked the parts breakdown on the Makita site for the two is identical except for the color.
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2009, 07:29:13 AM »

Hi , Just looking at your discussion about the impact drivers and noticed that you said the 1.5 ah Makita battery would'nt fit on any Makita tool unless its white? are you sure I think that all Makita slide Lithium fit all lithium tools as long as it's the same platform i.e 18v
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2009, 09:54:03 AM »

Hi , Just looking at your discussion about the impact drivers and noticed that you said the 1.5 ah Makita battery would'nt fit on any Makita tool unless its white? are you sure I think that all Makita slide Lithium fit all lithium tools as long as it's the same platform i.e 18v

Here's a quote from Velosapien,

The compact 1.5 ah batteries will NOT fit on the blue tools. There is a small notch on the tool preventing them from sliding in. That can easily be cut off and they should work but I'm not willing to try on my new tools. I'm not sure why Makita wouldn't want you to use the compact batteries on the blue tools. The only drawback should be shorter run time but they can come in handy for some very tight spots or in an emergency if you find yourself with no charged 3.0 ah batteries. I would love to use these batteries on the impact driver to make it even smaller. Besides, they charge in under 15 minutes with the new rapid charger so its not bad.
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2009, 07:06:02 PM »

There are a handfull of Makita tools that will not accept the 1.5Ah batteries. However some of the newer tools with the yellow bottom that will accept both.
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2009, 02:52:50 PM »

Whats the difference between the DEWALT DC827 and the DC825? they both have the same specifications!
Can the DC825 take XRP NiCd and XRP Lithium ion batteries?
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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2009, 09:55:57 PM »

The DC825 has the NiCd footprint, while the DC827 has the Lithium footprint. They are identical other than that. All but 4 18v Dewalt tools will accept the lithium batteries. All 18v Dewalt tools are frontward, and backward compatible. Update your charger and your good to go.
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2009, 03:51:57 PM »

Heres a DC825 with a Lithium bottom!? I bought a new DCD950 (drill only) from this guy before, iam looking for an impact driver and i might just buy this one, what do you think of the price?

http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320389981070&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.ie%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm38.l1313%26_nkw%3D320389981070%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1
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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2009, 04:47:32 PM »

I would make the assumption that the DC825 will be phased out into the DC827. Then again, as long as Dewalt continues to make NiCd batteries they may choose to keep the model # DC825 alive?


As far as ebay is concerned.. I think suggested retail is $130 for the bare tool. I think anything $90 or under is a good deal on ebay.
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