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« on: November 14, 2009, 06:42:40 PM » |
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At my Lowes, I saw two of these on display. One was out w/ a combo pack, one was standing by itself. Both saws showed DC390 on the model section of the sticker on the tool.
The one in the combo pack had a Nano base, the stand alone one had a regular XRP / Nicad base.
Is DeWALT slowly moving the bases over to Nano?
I see on the website that the Nano kit is DCS390L. I was assuming the Nano based saw I saw in the combo kit would show the S on the model number but it didn't. I thought that was the way to tell if it had a Nano base or not, but clearly it wasn't.
So how do you know what you have w/o opening the box?
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2009, 07:57:35 PM » |
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I recently bought the DCK655 Kit, all the tools came a nano base except for the Circular saw? I returned it for a new one and all the tools came with a nano base including the circ saw. I'm sure they are bleeding through old inventory, no way of telling unless you open the box.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2009, 10:08:30 PM » |
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I noticed too that no matter if its the old style XRP base or the new style Nano base tools, they still keep the exact same model numbers. Sometimes there is other differences too (besides just the bases) - like on the DC390 circular saw, the XRP model has no black rubber grips, while the Nano saw does - and both have the exact same model number. I guess the only time your really guaranteed the new Nano base is when you buy a totally new product line, like the DCD970 drill.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2009, 10:15:24 PM » |
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How good is this circular saw in general? I'm asking b/c I decided 'what the Heck' and just ordered the DCD960KL drill/driver. Now I'm on the latest / greatest band wagon with the voltage to carry me into other tools. Since I have these juicy Nano XRP batts coming, I'm wondering what else I can plug them into and get some mileage out of.
I can get the bare tool saw - but I don't want a non-nano clip.
Is this tool a good replacement for a dedicated corded (assuming you have ample batteries to power it)? I'm looking at the DW369CSK as well.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2009, 01:09:23 PM » |
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They are not good for long rip cuts in 2x material, but for 2x and smaller cross cuts they work quite well. Ripping sheeted is pretty easy with a cordless unit.
So does this mean you are not keeping the 920? Or are you getting both?
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2009, 01:33:42 PM » |
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I perform general contracting work, so I use a lot of these 18v cordless power tools. I bought a new DC390 bare saw 6 months ago or so, its a nano base version. Like you, I wondered if it had enough power to cut a 2x4 or how long the battery would last. I am impressed with it, but not enough to get rid of my corded saw. It cuts across 2x4s with no problem. I went to cut a 8'x4' by 3/4" thick sheet, with white laminate surface on each side with hard wood in the middle (used for table/desk/workbench tops), using a new and freshly charged XRP DC9096 battery, & using a new sharp Dewalt 90-tooth blade. The saw did make it from one end to the other (going long ways). But, around 7' into it it was starting to loose power. It is good for quick cuts, trim work, it cross cuts 2x4s to 2x12s, ply-wood, etc. Using a new sharp blade helps battery life. You can get a new bare DC390 nano saw off ebay for around $70 or so. Am i glad i bought it? Yes. Can I now sell my corded saw? No.
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2009, 01:44:08 PM » |
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I've always just done rough ripping with a 24 tooth blade, I've been able to rip 4'x8' 7/16" OSB a few runs before I need to slap on another battery. I've never needed to use a 90 tooth blade, I would imagine the cut would take awhile?
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2009, 02:21:13 PM » |
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The 90 tooth blade does take a lot longer. But obviously the cut using a 90 tooth is more precise then a 16/18/24/36 tooth blade. A precise cut is what I need for my last post above, so that I can add a white Band-It Melamine Edging (pre glued iron on) - it needs a smooth surface to stick to. By the way, I have used an Avanti 140 tooth blade before, it seems to burn more then cut. I recommend not to go more then 90 tooth.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2009, 05:20:42 PM » |
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They are not good for long rip cuts in 2x material, but for 2x and smaller cross cuts they work quite well. Ripping sheeted is pretty easy with a cordless unit.
So does this mean you are not keeping the 920? Or are you getting both?
I never opened the 920 after I bought it, so I returned it. In the end I looked at my first DeWALT cordless as a investment - I wanted to make the best investment I could, not including the physical drill itself. To me that meant the batteries, and since there are way more options for 18V cordless I went w/ that. W/ this shed I'm building, it likely will not have power run to it but it should be big enough to do some woodworking in. Having portable power tools might end up being a very good thing for me. Circular saw, maybe a jig saw, already got the drill coming. Etc.
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2009, 10:12:00 PM » |
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The 18v jig saw (DC330), right angled drill (DW960), 4.5" cut-off tool (DC411), impact driver (DC825), circular saw (DC390), just to name a few, all come in handy on a construction site. But, keep in mind that there is usually (but not always) a generator, 1+ miter saws, and a chop saw at the site. I really cant think of any 18v Dewalt tool that is just really totally worthless. As far as drills, I still have some DC759. The 759s just wont give up, but they are good for general & light duty finishing work. I had to invest in some bigger more powerful drills, so I bought several of the DCD970.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 06:10:13 AM » |
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I'm not a contractor and my shed likely won't have power. I'm just a DIYer who appreciates good tools and enjoys working with wood.
Once my shed is up I have 2 options. Run a extension cord off the back of the house or use some battery tech alternative. These tools won't be run for hours a day every day - I'm thinking (maybe I'm wrong?) that so long as the batteries I have are charged at the beginning of the day I should be able to do whatever I might need. 2 18V XRP Nanos, maybe one or two XRP Nicads - I should be powered through my worst 'Need to get out of the house' moments.
At least that's what I'm thinking - I haven't sold myself on the idea yet its just a thought. Obviously corded tools are cheaper and more powerful, but I DO have 2 of the best batteries made coming my way. I won't get the 2k charges / discharges before the shelf life kills them off - I'm thinking putting them to use in other tools might be a good idea.
My other plans after the shed include building some builtins around the house, closet organizers (related to the builtins I assume?), I'm going to do case molding around my windows (10" miter probably), some crown molding, etc. If I get brave w/ some experience I've acquired I'd love to tackle finishing my basement.
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 05:15:21 PM » |
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They are not good for long rip cuts in 2x material, but for 2x and smaller cross cuts they work quite well. Ripping sheeted is pretty easy with a cordless unit.
So does this mean you are not keeping the 920? Or are you getting both?
Eh, nevermind.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 05:30:38 PM » |
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I'm leaning towards the cordless as I don't need the saw to run all day long and I'd probably be more comfortable with something smaller and more compact. Its the price that's the kicker, but everything has a cost I suppose. Still kicking it around.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2009, 01:45:25 PM » |
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Cost of a bare tool, or the kit?
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2009, 04:49:23 PM » |
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I'm considering the kit - if I get the nano kit I'll have 2 chargers and 3 batteries total. Pretty much any tool after that could be a bare tool purchase for me. Like the cordless 16 gauge nailer (have casing and crown I want to put up, plus if I finish the basement at some point that thing outta come in handy for all the trim). I'd like to get one of those lights too. I'll see where I go from there.
But 170 is a lot of cash over just the bare tool - so I'll think on it awhile more. I have no projects that I can get at this month, and probably next month (though I want to).
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