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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2011, 03:08:51 AM » |
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Is this the same cells as in the nano battery pack? If not I asume that this batterypack can not take up to 2000 cycles.
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2011, 09:08:12 AM » |
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Dewalt is currently using three different manufactures for their batteries.
DC9260 36v batteries use A123 Nano Phosphate Lithium batteries.
DC9180 XRP batteries use A123 Nano Phosphate Lithium batteries.
DC9181 Compact batteries use Sony Iron Phosphate Lithium batteries.
DCB120 Compact batteries use Sanyo Lithium Metallic Oxide batteries.
I'm not sure where Sanyo rates their batteries in terms of cycle life, like most oxides on the market I would presume 500-800 recharges. Cycle life varies greatly from one user to the next. It all depends on how you take care of your batteries.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2011, 10:31:02 AM » |
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I think I take good care of all my cordless Dewalt machines. Store them inside over night because it is freaking cold here in Sweden during winter and When the battery starts to slow down I recaharge them. Sometimes I let the battery to sitt in the charger over night.
I understand if they use cheaper cells in the DCB120 batterypack because the DCF610 driver is actually not a heavyduty drill/driver like the DCD970 that use the DC9180 pack. However, I think the DCF610 is a wonderfull machine as long as you use it for the kind of work it is designed for wich means light work. I use it almost everyday and so far I´m very happy with it. Before I only had a DCD960 and even if it is a very nice and wellbalanced drill it is little to big for the very light kind of work like putting up a outlett and things like that.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2011, 10:32:26 AM » |
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It will be interesting to see where the market goes, Sanyo has new ZT batteries coming out. Almost twice the m AH rating over the current SAX series used by Dewalt, and the energy density doubles. All in the same size cell. Milaukee and Ridgid are already using similar technology in the Red-Lithium and Hyper Lithium cells, only made by Samsung. Specs from Sanyo.  |
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2011, 11:15:06 AM » |
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Very interesting. Would be nice if they upgrade the batterypack with this kind of cells. But maybee there is a backside we do not know. Guess the cost for the new cell must not be to much higher if they are going for a change. But who does not want a double runtime!
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2011, 08:50:23 AM » |
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No one's using a high capacity cell any time soon, even red lithium uses a 1.5 amp hour cell. There are 3.0+ amp hour cells out there, great for laptops and other things that don't require high current.
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2011, 09:43:43 AM » |
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That is all based on cell chemistry, as the technology evolve you would see more higher Ah cells
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2011, 05:35:26 PM » |
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The possibility of upgrading the cells is very cool in my humble opinion! Double run time in the same or similar sized and weighted battery would absolutely ROCK!!! Very happy with my 12v MAX tools- screwdriver, drill and impact driver (plus free light, thank you DeWALT)!!! They are light weight and work very nicely. Keep up the good work- slide pack 12v was genius!
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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2011, 07:55:49 AM » |
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Newbie here and I hope someone can answer a question for me. I notice that all of the 12V li-ion batteries that have been torn apart in the different reviews show (3) 18650 cells. These cells are 3.6V each for a total of 10.8V. How can they claim 12V? The only one that appears to be playing by the rules on this is the Rigid. It has the same 3 cells and claims 10.8.
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2011, 07:59:01 AM » |
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Bob, read up on this post http://dewaltownersgroup.com/index.php/topic,619.msg2201.html#msg2201Post any follow up questions you might have. |
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2011, 08:18:52 AM » |
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Wow. I live in a sales/marketing world and I never heard of this. I guess nobody will drop a dime on the other because they all have the same amount to lose. Interesting though that Snap-on (my world not yours) does not do this. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/catalog1.asp?tool=all&Cat_ID=121069&Cat_NAME=Power Tools, Cordless&store=snapon-store See this page if you are interested. Bob |
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2011, 08:24:54 AM » |
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Snap-On does not compete with the construction world. I doubt they care to follow any trends set over here.
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2011, 06:56:23 AM » |
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It will be interesting to see where the market goes, Sanyo has new ZT batteries coming out. Almost twice the m AH rating over the current SAX series used by Dewalt, and the energy density doubles. All in the same size cell. Milaukee and Ridgid are already using similar technology in the Red-Lithium and Hyper Lithium cells, only made by Samsung. Specs from Sanyo. I think the maximum is currently A123System utensils, for discharge current and life cycles Sanyo UR18650ZT have the C = 2700mAh for a discharge current of 0.54 A which reduces to about "" "1800mah for discharge current of 5.4 A " "" " http://battery.sanyo.com/product/lithum-ion/pdf/01/UR18650ZT.pdfgreetings |
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