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[kjones]

Not all that surprising, except that the milwaukee was faster, which means the DeWALT was obviously in 2nd gear, not third.  I was also surprised that the DeWALT didn't get a few more holes.  If the Milwaukee got 18, I would expect the DCD970KL to get around 13 or 14, and the DCD950KA would get around 14 or 15.  Do this test again with the 20v! 

[DEWALTDUDE]

Very interesting test, I've done several different test's with almost all the major brands. You can get major changes in results just by changing gears. Dewalt being a 3 speed is hard to really do testing against in 2nd and 3rd.

[golem]

3 speed = less torque. So it seem already hard to finish hole if they realy use the second gear for dewalt.Is not going to be more easy at 3 speed which 3 speed is less torque.If you see they use torque test application to see which one make more hole.But dont forget that dewalt as the less Ah 2.2 vs 3 Ah for makita.

[golem]

This test suck because you can't see if the batery are full charge which speed they use what size of the bit.

[CTDiesel]

I'm sure that the test was done with fully charged batteries and the same size bit.....

[kjones]

3 speed = less torque. So it seem already hard to finish hole if they realy use the second gear for dewalt.Is not going to be more easy at 3 speed which 3 speed is less torque.If you see they use torque test application to see which one make more hole.But dont forget that dewalt as the less Ah 2.2 vs 3 Ah for makita.

You are right in that 3rd gear will have less torque (inverse relationship between speed and torque), but spade bits are made for high speed.  You want to use a spade bit in the highest gear that the motor can sustain, which makes the bit work to its maximum efficiency.  Not saying that it would have changed anything drastically, just that it would have made the DeWALT get the holes done much faster than any other.  As was said, the DeWALT is running between 2.0 and 2.2 amp hour battery, vs the 3.0 in the Milwaukee and Makita.  Couple the efficiency of the DeWALT switch, motor, and transmission to a 3amp hour battery, and the test will be very different, especially when in 3rd gear with a spade bit (enter the 20v MAX).

[Gatorb888]

There are so many other video's out there testing run time and the Dewalt comes out on top (for example the one below). I think Dewaltdude has even made some? I find it odd that the Dewalt only got 10 holes. It seems there are so many factors when determining run time besides Amp Hour. What size bit you are using (some drills perform better using different size bits?), how old the battery is, how old the tool is, lithium or NiCad. Thoughts?

http://youtu.be/jKZfkNYxm5E

[kjones]

There are so many other video's out there testing run time and the Dewalt comes out on top (for example the one below). I think Dewaltdude has even made some? I find it odd that the Dewalt only got 10 holes. It seems there are so many factors when determining run time besides Amp Hour. What size bit you are using (some drills perform better using different size bits?), how old the battery is, how old the tool is, lithium or NiCad. Thoughts?

http://youtu.be/jKZfkNYxm5E

Completely agree.  Also, what is better, getting the most holes but taking two times as long for each one, or getting your work done faster?  At the end of the day, as we all know, you can build a test to get any result you want (not saying this was an unfair test).  The point is that the DeWALT DOES get around the same run time as Milwaukee and Makita in nearly all applications, even with the smaller amp hour rating (gas in the tank).  This is why I keep saying, wait till we can show some tests with the 20v!  We are talking about the same DeWALT efficiency as the drill in the above video, mated to a third more capacity in the "gas tank".  Game over Makita and Milwaukee.

[DEWALTDUDE]

http://youtu.be/jKZfkNYxm5E

Ummm..... That is my test. 

I started these test's on "thepowertoolforum" before D.O.G was around.

[Bingobelle]

Actually it looks like it is not a normal spadebit but a self driving spadebit. I use them myself and even though the bad picture it look like it is ervin speedgrove6x self driven "spade" bits.

The size of the drillbit looks big so I think they do the test in first gear because these kind of "spadebits" take a lot of power from the battery. They require a lot more power from the tool compared to normal spadebits.

Not saying that the test is a fake but I know from personal use that makita and the others like milwaukke when comming to the end of the battery the tools start to go very slowly but are still capable of making some extra holes but personaly I think it is better that the battery just shut off when it is time to recharge and change the battery. And one thing that is much more important than the runtime and that is Dewalts superior gearbox compared to the others. Everytime I borrow a makita or something else from my friends I nearly always are missing the 3 speed gearbox. Personaly I do not like the 1500 to 1700 rpm range on the makita second gear. Spadebits love the 2000 rpm range. And smaller selfdriven "spadebits" love the 1250 rpm range and also bigger screws. Only when using large holesaws or big lags I need the first gear on the dewalt end even there the dewalt is in most case 100 rpm faster then the competitors. And with the modern carbide teeth holesaws it is actually no problem using the second gear on the dewalt.

Even if the new xr range tools ( 20 v max ) is going to give much more runtime the same problem will ocur with them as on the other brands and that is a weak tool before it is time to recharge instead of full power to the end before charge time. Thats my point of view.